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I used to love seeing Brock when he first came back but now the last match I looked forward to was his match with AJ Styles because that was the first time in a while he actually gave a shit about the match. 

Before that his matches after Undertaker in 2015 were all pretty much phoned in especially his one with Dean Ambrose at Wrestlemania 32 that was disgusting to see and on top of the fact that Dean tried to run ideas by Lesnar and Lesnar wasn't having any of it who the hell would want to work with the guy if your just gonna be jobbed out in 5 minutes because the top guy is just a lazy fuck. 

The way I see it you only have to wrestle a handful of times a year maybe 5 tops then at least put effort into the matches. 

Also this one F5 and its done is bullshit when the other guy manages to land multiple finishers (Braun Strownman at No Mercy) and yet he kicks out at 2 with ease, there was an easy way to make the matches last a bit longer and without jobbing out the stars in 5-9 minutes.

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Dave Meltzer reported in the latest edition of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter that the feeling within the WWE is that Universal Champion Brock Lesnar is very interested in staying with WWE when his contract is up after WrestleMania 34 next month.

The feeling within the sports entertainment company is that this the exact same situation that happened in 2016 where Lesnar decided to re-sign with the WWE before or after his last date.


The longtime pro wrestling journalist noted that WWE officials are still moving forward with the idea that Lesnar is leaving. Part of that mentality is to downplay Lesnar on his way out so it won’t look like such a big loss if he does leave.


I read a report somewhere else that WWE are open to the idea of Lesnar leaving as they feel he’s outlived his usefulness having now wrestled all the current top talent. I can understand that given his expensive price tag and the fact he is only willing to work a handful of matches per year for all that money. He could still face the likes of Balor, Rollins, Ziggler and The Miz and rematches with guys like Styles and Strowman but on the whole he’s exhausted all his big marquee match options. It also must be a source of frustration for WWE and the other talent that despite his salary and reduced schedule Brock more often than not only works very short matches and his performance is basic or even phoned in.
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When will the WWE learn that Brock is a complete waste of time ? Sure , I’ll admit in the beginning he was a bit of a draw but now , he’s hardly ever on TV , they’ve built him up to be indestructible (however Goldberg disproved that) and he clearly doesn’t want to be there full time. Even if he drops the belt to Reigns , so what , least Reigns is there to cheer or to boo full time. The integrity of the universal belt is a joke. Smackdown got the world champ so the A list show couldn’t have that so that made a universal champ. What’s next , Galaxian belt ? They have enough talent not to rely of Brock anymore. Strowman has certainly proved that. Not to mention Samoan Joe , Seth Rollins and Bobby Roode. It’s time to move on from the beast and invest in your full time stars.
For now, that’s is all

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rico Len Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17/April/2018 at 15:24
Yeah I refuse to call that the Universal championship, but rather that whoever it is that holds it is the champion of the WWE universe. It sounds more like WWE's version of a TV title.
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I’m wondering , will Vince keep the strap on Brock so he can pass CM Punk’s 434 day streak of being champion ? We all know just how much Vince likes Punk. Just a random though.
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Originally posted by 4 of em 4 of em wrote:

I’m wondering , will Vince keep the strap on Brock so he can pass CM Punk’s 434 day streak of being champion ? We all know just how much Vince likes Punk. Just a random though.

That 434 day streak of Punk's that I have seen you mention several times is meaningless in my eyes as it is only the record of longest title reign of recent champions; we all know Bruno has the real record of having the longest WWWF World Title reign ever; and Brock doesn't even have the same belt. For the actual record of the Universal belt Brock already has the record. 

Like I said in other threads I am infinitely glad Brock retained both at WrestleMania and at the Greatest Royal Rumble. Even though yes I wish Brock would go back to the more vast repertoire he had in the past; a dominant champion is what the WWE needs. 

I was watching the last Raw with the Bruno Sammartino tribute and thought it was so appropriate that Brock and Paul Heyman came to the ring just after the Bruno tribute and following video package as Brock is the closest thing to Bruno since Bruno, besides Hulk Hogan. In fact Brock and Bruno are mirror images of each other, both in the sense of being strongmen and in the sense of soundly beating their opponents.   

But Brock retaining means I am thinking the eventual feud between Brock and Bobby Lashley will indeed happen; and for the title. I am rooting for Brock. 


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Quote That 434 day streak of Punk's that I have seen you mention several times is meaningless in my eyes as it is only the record of longest title reign of recent champions

WWE refers to that as "WWE's modern history" or "since the Hogan era." Nobody will ever hold the title for years at a time, WWE has said so explicitly on Raw. As such CM Punk's title run is very meaningful and it probably doesn't sit well in Vince or Triple H's craw that Punk is that holder of that "record." 

Let's play the wait and see game with this one. Brock is still holding the title and his run is getting longer and longer if. IF it passes the 434 day mark or whatever it is that Punk held for, let's just see if WWE commentary, Paul Heyman, and many others all start bragging about being the longest reigning champion in X amount of years. 

That will tell the tale.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Quote That 434 day streak of Punk's that I have seen you mention several times is meaningless in my eyes as it is only the record of longest title reign of recent champions

WWE refers to that as "WWE's modern history" or "since the Hogan era." Nobody will ever hold the title for years at a time, WWE has said so explicitly on Raw. As such CM Punk's title run is very meaningful and it probably doesn't sit well in Vince or Triple H's craw that Punk is that holder of that "record." 

I know what they meant, I was stating what record I recognize and what record I feel should be recognized (and it is.) In fact when Punk was Champion him and Paul Heyman had that chart in the ring with the real list of longest reigning WWWF/WWF/WWE World Champions, listing guys like Bruno, Bob Backlund, Hulk Hogan, and Pedro Morales. 

When the broadcasters stated that no one will hold a belt for several years straight, it was a kayfabe statement intended to mean "it is unlikely that anyone would break these records" just like anyone would talk about a sports record. And even if they meant straight up, "we won't book anyone to be Champion that long ever again" that doesn't make Bruno any less the recordholder. 

Punk's alleged record is meaningless.  

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rico Len Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/May/2018 at 14:20
Then does the streak Asuka just went on mean nothing as well because of Fabulous Moolah?

Times change, and we have to evolve as viewers just as every sports entertainment company has to evolve as well. You simply can't have someone hold the title for 10 years anymore they very rarely hold for a year anymore, so when someone holds it for a year and a half it's a big deal.

You can choose to not recognize all you want, but I'm simply stating that regardless of that, it IS significant to the vast majority of both fans and WWE officials.
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I’ve heard he will be skipping Money in the Bank but until Summerslam?? That’s far too long that means Lesnar will have sat at home with the title for four months, a third of the entire year.

I hope Brock wrestles at least at the event following MITB.
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