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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rico Len Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29/April/2018 at 23:33
Finn Balor.

I've said many times now that if Eddie Guerrero can beat Lesnar, so can Finn Balor.

If people don't think he is up to the task then so much the better, he should be booked as an underdog and it should be a surprise when he beats Lesnar, and there should NOT be anyone saying he can't be a good champion of the WWE Universe. Well, not any more than for any other 1 time WWE/Universe champion like say The Miz, or Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Kevin Owens, etc.

Balor is alone and he is a huge underdog, if he surprises everyone with a win like when Goldberg beat Lesnar and people give much the same reaction, then that's awesome.

If they do it like John Cenas 5 moves of Doom and everyone realizes its coming and the title change is telegraphed weeks in advance the effect will be trivialized and rejected.
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Couple of caveats there.

Eddie Guerrero was able to win via three things that Balor doesn't have. Eddie Guerrero had a much bigger physique than Finn Balor has now at the time of his match. That made the gap much smaller than people seem to remember.

Secondly, Guerrero was able to get the win largely due to outside interference from Goldberg, this he didn't exactly beat Lesnar in any way fairly. Not even close to fairly in fact given that it was a surprise run in for Goldberg where he hit I believe two finisher level moves.

Thirdly, Guerrero was a heel, meaning that he could cheat and accept the help and the like. Balor is not a heel.

This was also pre current day Lesnar. Current day Lesnar is built much stronger than the Lesnar of the day back then. That incarnation of Lesnar would have been decimated by Roman Reigns. 

Seth Rollins (a 2 time champion, FYI) is a much better comparison to Guerrero in my eyes when you compare physiques and styles. Having The Shield interfere on his behalf would grant a greater moment like you're saying. With Balor a lot of it is down to his offence. His punches look weak, the slingblade would be pointless and that drop kick into the corner would bounce straight off Lesnar. 

Styles got a good match out of Lesnar largely down to strong aerial offence, surprise out of nowhere moments and prolonged submission sections. Balor doesn't really have any of those. Rollins could certainly but Strowman is the only one who seems at all likely in my opinion.
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I wholeheartedly agree that Strowman is the only guy that is in any way likely.

I also agree that Rollins is far more comparable to Eddie than Balor.

However, Balor has beaten AJ Styles before, the current WWE Champion and he did it completely clean, and it's mostly gone under the radar since then. That plays in his favor for justifying a shock win. To be clear, I'm not saying this should be done as an underdog overcoming the odds kind of story, but rather a shock win like Brock over Taker at WM30.

I would want to see Balor hang in there and avoid Brocks biggest moves. Balor has it in him to stick the landing from a Brock Lesnar German Suplex, and hit the ropes and attack Lesnar every time he goes for the German. Balor has it in him to do the same thing from an F5. I'm not saying it should be a lopsided win, or that Balor shouldn't take a few German Suplexes or an F5 either, but that if they establish early on that Balor CAN do it, and that Lesnar's offense can be completely avoided by Balor if he's on his game, then after taking a huge beating, if he does it it's not unbelievable. The idea with the shock is not so much to go "that could never happen" because then they may reject it completely as just stupid, but to keep expectations so low that when it does happen fans jaws drop. So you place in their minds that it's possible however unlikely, and then after a 60/40 matchup that sees Balor lay out Lesnar in the ring and he jumps off the top ropes to stomp on Lesnar's chest, AND we've seen Lesnar take that dropkick into the turnbuckle a number of times as well to the point where you can see Balor's going at Lesnar's strongest feature (instead of Lesnar's laughably weak chicken legs that no one ever works on). It could work. Especially if Lesnar starts selling people on the idea that he's taken so many shots to his chest that he's having problems breathing.

Balor doesn't need the help, he needs to be evasive and offensive. However you could easily throw a guy like Braun Strowman out there and build a scenario where Lesnar and Strowman take each other out and Balor capitalizes on the moment and then is attacked by Strowman after Balor takes the title, but then divert Strowman's quest for the gold by having Lesnar seek revenge not on Balor, but on Strowman.

Again, I'm not in any was suggesting that WWE would ever do this. It's total fantasy booking, I'm just saying that Balor COULD do it and I think the fans would accept it so long as it's done with enough care to walk the line between believable and total shock.
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Balor for me at least is not at that level. He’s a good talent and of course is really over but he wrestles like a cruiserweight and his personality is bland and generic. He couldn’t match up to Lesnar at present as Brock has been booked as a destroyer that only a really special talent can overcome. This is a good thing as WWE has so few heel talents that they’ve allowed to be so dominant.

Braun Strowman is the only guy other than Reigns that has been booked in a way where it would be believable for him to score a clean win over Lesnar. There is Bobby Lashley but it’s early days with him and definitely too soon to give him the title.
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Quote Baron Corbin comes out to the ring to address the WWE Universe regarding the Universal Championship. Corbin says last week was emotional, but that was then and this is now, and he hopes Reigns doesn't come back to RAW when he returns to action. Brock Lesnar comes out to interrupt, and he's with Paul Heyman. They hit the ring and Heyman takes control of the mic from Corbin. Heyman says he has a spoiler alert for Crown Jewel: Lesnar will be putting the Universal Title back over his shoulder. Heyman says the only way he could be more confident in that is if it were predetermined. Braun Strowman comes out to interrupt and he gets in the ring with a mic. Braun says he's the one who will be the Universal Champ, because Lesnar is gonna get these hands. Braun and Corbin end up getting into a shoving match, which results in Braun powerslaming Corbin. Lesnar watches and laughs. Lesnar and Braun come face to face now. Braun turns his attention back to Corbin and gives him a running powerslam. The crowd chants for one more slam, so Braun gives Corbin another one. As Braun gets to his feet, Lesnar grabs him and gives him an F-5. Lesnar picks up his Title belt and heads to the back with Heyman. Braun gets to his feet in the ring and yells up at Lesnar as Lesnar walks back through the curtain.
 
I wouldn't think they are going to put the title back on part time guy Brock Lesnar.
 
But then I don't think Braun is title worthy, so it's going to be disapointing when he wins Friday.
 
I did like this segment though with Brock telling Braun what to do to Corbin and then sneak attacking him.
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The reports I’ve seen so far have suggested the plan is for Brock to wrestle AJ Styles at Survivor Series then defend the title against Braun at the Royal Rumble. However the report also suggested that WWE are not confident in Strowman’s ability to be the top guy in WWE and that there is a good chance Lesnar retains at the Rumble.

It was suggested Brock holds the belt up to Wrestlemania and defends against Batista who was originally planned to face Triple H but that plan may now be scrapped as Hunter is injured.

I don’t actually mind these plans, Lesnar vs Batista is a match I’ve always wanted to see and I have to agree that I’m not totally sold on Strowman as the top guy in the company, I see him more as a Big Show type as a big guy who drifts in and out of the main event as needed, his cartoonish growling monster style reminds me more of 80’s/90’s heels than a main event babyface in this era.
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Batista is only interested in returning for a match with Triple H. He has no interest whatsoever in wrestling Brock Lesnar.
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I don't understand why they're hesitant to put the belt on strownman you won't know how he will be as the top guy unless you actually try and push him as such and I say he's ready.

If they're not willing to have him as their top guy then start pushing Seth Rollins as the top guy in WWE .

In any case Lesnar holding the belt is the wrong move and it's not something raw can keep going through they need a main title to be defended.
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Is Strowman merch not selling? As I've heard, it's doing better than almost everyone's. He's got the throwback look AND size. He's a real personable, nice guy IRL when he's OOC. To me, aside from looking like a wrestler straight out of the 1980's he's got everything a WWE superstar should have. He's good at basically everything he does, and he's drawing.

He may not be the #1 pick for everyone to be WWE Champion and the face of the company, but come on. Lesnar???
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Is Strowman merch not selling? As I've heard, it's doing better than almost everyone's. He's got the throwback look AND size. He's a real personable, nice guy IRL when he's OOC. To me, aside from looking like a wrestler straight out of the 1980's he's got everything a WWE superstar should have. He's good at basically everything he does, and he's drawing.

He may not be the #1 pick for everyone to be WWE Champion and the face of the company, but come on. Lesnar???


I think they put the strap on Lesnar to throw a curveball and shock people, everyone thought Strowman has this one in the bag. Maybe the chance to have Lesnar wrestle AJ at Survivor Series was a selling point too, can’t say I was excited about the prospect of Styles vs Strowman.

I like Strowman but I do feel like he’s missing a piece of the puzzle, not quite sure what. At this point while I do feel it might be a rushed move I wouldn’t mind seeing Drew McIntyre turn face and be pushed as the top guy, I think Drew vs Brock could be a killer match.
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