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Nakamura will not be leaving the company. No matter what the WM storyline is. It's been less than 3 years since they had a main event together and there will be a couple spots not seen by WWE fans before. don't know who wins, but I guess that depends on if AJ goes to Mondays.

The Goldberg Program is not complete until winning the belt. Asuka will become champ.

the triple threat tag match could be insane. I'm happy with anyone but New Day.

US title... need to see the go home show for any hints
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According to reports, Styles injury is related to his MCL - which is the same injury that Rollins picked up in the February before Mania 33. Rollins was also able to compete and he actually won the match v HHH.
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A reasonable match but not the classic people wanted, it didn't have me gripped like a five star classic should, not even close.

It was a well worked exchange of technical wrestling but it lacked the thrills and spills and big spots that you would expect of a match of this magnitude, especially with all the hype. It didn't help that it was placed on the card at a point where with the pre-show viewers had sat through nearly six hours of wrestling and were probably feeling exhausted by it all, this match would have been better served going on earlier then WWE should have run a selection of cool down matches. I maintain what I've always said, Nakamura has been a flop on the main roster, his style doesn't mesh well and he has failed to deliver in the ring and his promos are terrible.

The most interesting thing about this was Nakamura turning heel, I just hope the new direction for his character can improve his all around act. Styles winning was a surprise, I really thought he would do the job then switch to Raw.
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Quote WWE Title Match: AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura: They ock up off the opening bell and then break apart. Both men are hesitant early on, until AJ is able to latch on to NAkamura and hit a suplex. Nakamura kicks AJ away, and then they get tangled up in the ropes and the ref pulls them apart. Nakamura comes back with a kick and a knee drop. Nakamura goes to stomp on Styles in the corner, but AJ breaks free. AJ connects with a knee to the face of Nakamura and drops him. AJ follows up with a snap suplex on Nakamura for a two count. Nakamura starts fighting back, but AJ stuns him and hits a side walk slam. AJ follows up with kicks and tries to keep Nakamura grounded. They fight out to the apron and Nakamura hits a kick to the face of AJ. Back in the ring, Nakamura connects with more kicks and a flying boot off the middle rope. Nakamura tells AJ to bring it, and Nakamura unloads with kicks again. Nakamura hits a splash in the corner and then a knee strike for a two count. Nakamura follows up with a reverse suplex, and AJ comes back with a facebuster. AJ hits a flying lariat in the corner, then a running forearm shot on the mat for a two count. After a brief back-and-forth, AJ connects with a pumphandle gut buster. Nakamura sends AJ to the apron and AJ looks for the Phenomenal Forearm, but Nakamura catches him and hits a Death Valley Driver for a two count. They trade strikes until AJ latches on to Nakamura and locks in the calf crusher. Nakamura fights out and looks for a triangle choke, but AJ hits him with a Fisherman’s brainbuster. AJ goes to pick him up, and Nakamura hits a spinning heel kick. Nakamura goes for a running knee in the corner, but AJ ducks and Nakamura hits the turnbuckle. AJ follows up with a Phenomnal Forearm for a two count. AJ goes for a springboard 450 but Nakamura gets the knees up to block it and pins for a two count. AJ and Nakamura start trading stiff forearm shots to the face in the middle of the ring. They’re throwing stiff punches and Nakamura looks hurt. Nakamura comes back with some shots, but AJ stuns him with a Pele kick. Nakamura answers with a knee to the back of the head for a two count. Nakamura looks for the Kinshasa, but AJ rolls through and hits Nakamura with the Styles Clash for the three count.

Winner & still WWE Champion: AJ Styles

– We go to replays and then see AJ celebrating with his win and then helping Nakamura to his feet. They hug in the ring before leaving. Nakamura takes the WWE Title belt from the ref, and he gets on one knee and hands it to AJ. AJ takes the belt and goes to hug Nakamura, but Nakamura hits AJ with a low-blow instead. Nakamura beats down AJ now and repeatedly stomps on his head as the crowd boos. Nakamura beats AJ out of the ring, then stomps on him at ringside and hits the Kinshasa on him on the floor before leaving.

Match of the night. I think because the show was dragging they had minutes cut, so it felt more rushed. But it was still fantastic, especially as AJ isn't 100%.
 
Loved the Nakamura entrance. Finally he looked like the rock star they keep calling him.
 
Soon as they hugged I was waiting for who was going heel, as they had been too many sporting ends to matches so someone at some point had to be different.
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Match of the night. 

Fuck.Right.Off

Was one of the worst matches ive seen at a Mania event after all of the build and hype it received.

Given the amount of squashes on the card, the match had plenty of time allocated - they just did not deliver - simple as that.

I was talking to the guys on here during the event and looking on the likes of twitter and other wrestling boards and everyone was saying how disappointed they were with the match - it was simply awful.

What the match did do was expose Nakamura for what ive been saying he is for the last few months - average and boring.

The heel turn at the end might be the only thing that can get fans fully invested in him because they were dead as doornails during the match and we all know thats not down to Styles because he can normally get a good match out of anyone
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I have to agree with heel this match was a dud I don't know how there matches in new Japan were but I doubt it was anything like what we saw at mania.

These two need to take a good look at themselves and ask is that the best they could do and if not then they need to do better.

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"What the match did do was expose Nakamura for what ive been saying he is for the last few months - average and boring."

The fuck it did. If it exposed Nakamura as average and boring then it did the exact same thing to AJ Styles. You look at Nakamura's body of work throughout his career and only on the WWE main roster does it look plain. Why? I have no fucking clue, but in NXT is was great. In Japan is was great. Everywhere else Nakamura is outstanding.

Yes the match was a complete let down, but unless WWE is crippling Nakamura's moveset or playcalling in the ring, there's no good explanation for it being so vanilla.

Nakamura had not 1, not 2, but 3 match of the year candidates in 2016. There is no fucking way in hell an average or boring wrestler pulls that off.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

"What the match did do was expose Nakamura for what ive been saying he is for the last few months - average and boring."

The fuck it did. If it exposed Nakamura as average and boring then it did the exact same thing to AJ Styles. You look at Nakamura's body of work throughout his career and only on the WWE main roster does it look plain. Why? I have no fucking clue, but in NXT is was great. In Japan is was great. Everywhere else Nakamura is outstanding.

Yes the match was a complete let down, but unless WWE is crippling Nakamura's moveset or playcalling in the ring, there's no good explanation for it being so vanilla.

Nakamura had not 1, not 2, but 3 match of the year candidates in 2016. There is no fucking way in hell an average or boring wrestler pulls that off.

Maybe you're right but as I have not seen his work from Japan and outside of WWE I have to agree with the majority here, he is overrated and boring. In NXT he was better but his Japanese style of throw a million kicks and call it strong style doesn't really do it for me.

AJ has proved time and time again both outside of WWE and in WWE that he is one of the worlds best in-ring performers, if not the best, he may have been hampered by a injury here but I lay more of the blame on Nakamura given he has yet to have one match on the WWE main roster that I would call more than average, Styles has had countless classics.

As for anybody saying this was Wrestlemania match of the night I would say Asuka/Charlotte, Lesnar/Reigns, Bryan and Shane/Owens and Zayn, Balor/Miz/Rollins and definitely Rousey and Angle/Triple H and Stephanie were better matches.


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100% agree with Fletch here.

Taking NXT out if it as we have all discussed several times the differences between that and the main roster, nakamura has done nothing of any note match wise in WWE.

He was pushed to the moon when he first debuted and then did nothing once he got there.

A period of time later he won the rumble and then spent a while off tv.

His entrance music is cool and flashy but he spends more time rolling around and pulling daft faces than he does putting on quality matches in the wwe.

He does not have a promo ability to fall back on so literally, at this moment, offers nothing.

His strong style shit has limited his moveset massively - look at punk,bryan,black,Asuka - all of which are known for striking and they are all entertaining and still have Lot of variation in their movesets.

Your comment on styles is one of the most mental things ive ever seen - he has without a doubt been the best wrestler in WWE since he debuted and has always been cinsidered one of the best in the world.

Nakamura at this minute is basically Tajiri without the green mist.
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Go back and read what I said about AJ Styles, I never said that he's average and boring, only that IF Nakamura is, then so is AJ Styles.

And as I have demonstrated a million times over a wrestler that does well elsewhere, and then also in NXT but not on the main roster proves there is something seriously wrong with the production team on the main roster.

Why do you think Brock Lesnar successfully defends his title at WrestleMania and then goes backstage and picks a fight with Vince because the match sucks? If that were on Lesnar or Reigns don't you think he'd take a different stance? No, he picked the fight with Vince because he's the directing the action during rehearsals. The fans turned on Brock and Brock got pissed and took it straight to Vince. I don't fucking blame him!

This is getting ridiculous, people need to get it through their heads that just because a wrestler does poorly on the main roster does not mean they're not great at all aspects of their job. 

WWE has failed for as long as I've been alive, if not longer at making stars look good if Vince doesn't care for them. Whether it's WCW guys, NJPW from the 80's and 90's, AWA, TNA, ROH, it doesn't matter, WWE is absolute dogshit at promoting someone they don't understand.

WWE failed Dusty fucking Rhodes! Do you think he's over-rated and boring? His time in WWE was a fucking joke! The difference between the polka dotted dancer & "Hard Times" is night and day. It never changes, and it's been that way for decades. I just don't understand how ANYONE could not see this by now. By now it's axiomatic. If they're not one of 'Vince's boys' they don't get titles, they DO get hamstrung, they don't get the A-team writing and booking. They get next to nothing, and when they don't get over like someone who gets a rocket strapped to their back and all the energy of the WWE behind them because they're one of "Vince's guys" they're summarily dismissed. I mean seriously? Who thought it was a good idea to give Nakamura a microphone instead of a manager!? It's not rocket science!

Look at Sami Zayn! He's one of the best babyfaces WWE has ever had... in NXT, but as soon as he comes up to the main roster they have everyone on commentary crapping all over him, the heels, the faces, everyone, and the booking is lackluster, as if the whole things is half-assed, and when he gets a half-assed reaction as a result suddenly we're supposed to believe that Zayn was never actually good in NXT or in the independents? REALLY? Dude! That's mental.

Nakamura has charisma greater than just about anyone in the WWE, his match quality is fantastic, his psychology is masterful, so if he's not doing well on the main roster what does that tell you???

Listen, I know I sound like a jerk, and I AM more than a little annoyed here so I apologize for that, but WWE has really been pissing me off when it comes to guys like Nakamura & Zayn & Bayley, & The Ascension, and now Authors of Pain. But HEY! We get Bobby Fucking Lashley! Yay! Because he's interesting...

Couple that with the way people crap on Ronda Rousey before they've even seen her wrestle and the result is that the fans are just grating on my every last nerve. So I seriously do mean it when I say I'm sorry for venting on you guys like that because you're infinitely better than the mindless WWE sheep I find elsewhere online, but I'm really about to just give up on wrestling all together at this point. It's like we're back to November of last year and we're only 2 days after Mania. WWE just doesn't get it through their heads how to deal with some of the people who could potentially be their biggest stars. There's the system, and if they're a square peg trying to fit into WWE's round hole (that sounds gross) they just force it (and now it's even worse) and the results are embarrassing (that's what she said). 


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