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Can't agree on the comment about the Double or Nothing pre show, yes it was much better than the Fyter Fest pre show but WWE have actually produced pretty consistently solid PPV's in recent times so to say it was better than all of them over the last few years I can't agree with at all. 

I'm enjoying a lot of what AEW are doing and I'm so glad that there's a new alternative to WWE on the scene but I'm still a WWE fan and the thing that is getting really annoying at the moment is all these AEW fan boys shouting about how great AEW is, how they are going to reignite the Monday Night Wars and destroy WWE and blah blah blah. In their eyes AEW can do no wrong and everything WWE does is dog shit. 
We all know there are some huge flaws in the currrent WWE product but there are still certain things they do well and they still have the best talent roster in the world. 

Fyter Fest was a good show but it wasn't great, but as you say this was basically a bolt on to a gaming convention so it was never going to be their show of the year and they would have been silly to attempt that for a low key event. 

I didn't mind Kenny and the Young Bucks wearing gaming inspired attire and other such gaming references through the show, but pretending to do the fire ball moves from Street Fighter and their opponents selling it was a bit much. 

The WWE product of late is slowly showing signs of improvement, I've said from the start that what I want and what I think will happen is AEW will become a ECW style alternative(just without the financial issues) and will put enough pressure on WWE to make them better.


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Sounds like I came in at the right time. I turned it on while they were announcing the women's triple threat, but I wasn't yet ready to sit down and watch. 

My problem is that I don't yet know who is who so it's hard to get invested. When it comes to the young bucks I'm really not that interested in them, but they are extremely good tag team wrestlers that can put on a good show. They're just really boring characters in my opinion so far.

I was noticing even during the entrances to the women's matches that no one seems to get the point of entrance music but the old WWE guys. The music is supposed to snap the audiences attention to your entrance, and get them hyped that you're coming to the ring, not serve as boring background music. That's why in WWE the music starts with something big, like glass shattering, or the singer opening the song with "I hear voices in my head" or and electric violin blaring the beginning of a violin solo, or a choir singing "Glorious!" or the wrestler saying something like "Can you smell, what the rock is cooking?" or "Awesome!" Point being there is always something that grabs your attention and within a split second you know who is here.

Moxley and Cody were the only ones to do that, everyone else had these serene fade one where you'd go, "oh I think someone is coming to the ring. But with Moxley it but hard and even though I am not familiar with his music yet, at least it hype enough to demand attention right from the start.

Anyways that was a big difference I've been noticing lately between the two companies. AEW really badly needs someone like Jake The Snake or even Jim Ross to teach them psychology.



I hope the online reviews are a lot more critical of this show than Double or Nothing. Just going online and seeing a bunch of reviews of "this was the greatest show ever" blah blah blah does nothing to serve as a critique. They need to know the fans don't like the librarians, that they should improve on this, that, and the other things or they're never going to get better and I think everyone wants them to do better.

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This is exactly the problem, AEW fan boys are all over social media saying this was the greatest show ever and how AEW are blowing WWE out of the water. It was a decent show sure but it couldn't hold a candle to any NXT Takeover shows and WWE have produced plenty of main roster PPV's better than this too. 

I badly want AEW to succeed but Rico is spot on by saying fans need to critique AEW and help identify what they are doing right and wrong, not just blindly claim everything they do is the best thing to ever happen to wrestling. 

I also liked the time limit announcements, gives the matches a more legit sporting contest feel and builds tension to the finish. 

I agree the entrances and most of the theme music was poor, as Rico said this is a big part of a talents identity, look at guys like Jake Robert's and The Ultimate Warrior who had iconic theme music just to name a couple. 

Why were Kenny and the Young Bucks running around during the pre show acting like the event was badly organised and that the company were on a tight budget? I get this was supposed to be tongue in cheek but even so it wasnt entertaining and made AEW seem small time. 

I agree with Rico on the Young Bucks too, great in the ring but their look and personalities just say bland. 

Even Kenny Omega, fantastic in the ring and has a good look, but I'm not sold on his personality yet, comes across as a over the top geeky gaming fan boy.
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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

This is exactly the problem, AEW fan boys are all over social media saying this was the greatest show ever and how AEW are blowing WWE out of the water. It was a decent show sure but it couldn't hold a candle to any NXT Takeover shows and WWE have produced plenty of main roster PPV's better than this too. 

The thing is AEW is blowing WWE out of the water at the minute. You are comparing this show to TakeOvers and PPV's when in fact this was a glorified house show so you should be comparing it to Super Showdown or any live WWE event and ive been to a few and Fyter Fest far exceeded them - even with a really bad pre show.

Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:



I agree the entrances and most of the theme music was poor, as Rico said this is a big part of a talents identity, look at guys like Jake Robert's and The Ultimate Warrior who had iconic theme music just to name a couple. 


100% agree with this and it is something already being addressed. Alot of the talent are tweeting about having new entrance music recorded and from what ive seen it looks as though AEW have a partnership of some sorts with Downstait so by the time TV tapings come along, most talent should have something above the current generic themes they have.

Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:


Why were Kenny and the Young Bucks running around during the pre show acting like the event was badly organised and that the company were on a tight budget? I get this was supposed to be tongue in cheek but even so it wasnt entertaining and made AEW seem small time. 


It was a continuation from the recent episodes of Being The Elite. Basically alot of groups cancelled their appearances at the video gaming event due to security concerns.

I believe the problem with this event was the expectations "Some" fans had after Double or Nothing. People forget that this was a bolt on free event to a video game tournament and what they got in return was absolutely fantastic considering it was broadcast for free in most places in the world.

Fans are craving for something different to WWE and as much as a fan of WWE as you can be there is no denying the product is at an all time low and is absolute horse shit in every sense of the word. The only thing saving WWE viewing figures currently is the intrigue as to what they will do with Bray Wyatt.

This was by no means a Double or Nothing or a NXT TakeOver but it was far better than anything WWE would ever offer at a house show or a B grade PPV.


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Ok as a freebie glorified house show I'll admit this event was pretty good and certainly a better watch than Super Showdown. But AEW is in its infant stages and are trying to build their fanbase so at this point even a free show used as a bolt on to a gaming convention should be trying to attract viewership numbers. Something I'm noticing about AEW early on is the talent who are running things behind the scenes are obviously letting their personal interests influence how some of the shows are presented as Kenny Omega is said to be a serious gamer. No harm in that I guess. 

Like I said the thing annoying me right now is the AEW fan boys(and I dont mean anybody on this forum) who are crapping all over anything WWE do and sucking off AEW even when they do stuff that isn't all that great, I mean saying Fyter Fest is the best wrestling show in years is ridiculous.


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I haven't been nearly so involved in the social media aspect of this show... are people really trying to say this was the best wrestling show in years??? That's insane. Most of WWE's PPVs THIS YEAR were better than this.

That's not to say this was a bad show either, because it wasn't. It's middle of the road, and for what it was, that's totally acceptable too. Plus there are a number of things about AEW that Fyter Fest has done that affirms they're moving in the right direction.

But yeah, I went and played through the pre-show and it was terrible, worse than anything I've seen from WWE. They need to figure their shit out there with regards to 'camp' humor and production because that's NOT the way to go IMO.

That said, you compare All Elite Wrestling thus far to the first few shows from Total Nonstop Action and All Elite Wrestling is quite a bit better.

Moreover, when it comes to the main event performers in AEW, they're putting on shows that stand toe to toe with the best WWE has put out. They just need to get consistent from the bottom of the card to the top. Once they do that, and once they get the hiccups out of their system in regards to production values, they're gonna be putting out a product easily on par with WWE.

Then all they have to do is get a TV show going, and have good stories to tell, and not the librarian kind of bullshit.
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I'm glad someone finally agrees with me on the pre show because again these online fan boys have actually been saying it was good. I mean I know it was just a tiny part of a low key event but even so at this early stage it rang a alarm bell with me because it was really bad, even the worst WWE stuff in recent memory wasn't  as bad as this and it got me thinking is this really what this promotion thinks is good entertainment? 

The Librarians just need to go and quickly and the camp low budget attempts at humour need to vanish too. 

In fairness I thought the early TNA shows were pretty good, their biggest problem was always trying to run before they could walk.


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Look at the state of all those empty seats for just their second ever show......



When it's show two and they have big gaps between shows, the hype should still be big enough that every show sells out or at least comes close to doing so.

Attendances like that won't make them rush back to that market again in a hurry.
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It should be pointed out that this is Kenny Omegas event with AEW backing, and not an official AEW PPV. Fight for the Fallen is AEW and even that isn't considered a major event, more like WWEs Tribute to the Troops. All Out, sold out in under 30 minutes and that's the one that people SHOULD be paying attention to when it comes to attendance.
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