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    Posted: 14/May/2020 at 12:30
Have to say this is a very weak card on paper, there is very little that will attract new fans or casual fans. 

The World title match is two ex WWE guys one of whom wasn't much more than a enhancement talent there, Brodie Lee has not had enough time to be rebuilt as a new character, it feels too soon for him to be wrestling for World titles and I'm still unsure about the Dark Order gimmick. 

The other big match is centred around two ex WWE guys in Jericho and Matt Hardy, although I am looking forward to the stadium stampede match as it should be a crazy brawl. 

The most appealing match is Lance Archer vs Cody. 

AEW do seem to be doing what said they wouldn't and that is building their product around ex WWE talent rather than building homegrown stars.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_or_Nothing_(2020)

Going through as someone who doesn't watch AEW......

E mid card Cody who had many different gimmicks to get over with his dads name and failed versus a guy who it's a stretch to even say was a TNA mid card guy in Archer.

They use an E faction guy in Moxley as their top guy and put him up against an E flop who's only just joined the company and somehow been thrown straight in to the top challenger position.

What is a Stadium Stampede match? Instead of being different to the competition they have the same silly booking decisions.
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Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_or_Nothing_(2020)

Going through as someone who doesn't watch AEW......

E mid card Cody who had many different gimmicks to get over with his dads name and failed versus a guy who it's a stretch to even say was a TNA mid card guy in Archer.

They use an E faction guy in Moxley as their top guy and put him up against an E flop who's only just joined the company and somehow been thrown straight in to the top challenger position.

What is a Stadium Stampede match? Instead of being different to the competition they have the same silly booking decisions.
 

Cody did reinvent himself as a much more credible talent since his WWE run though, he did this through working indie shows and stints in TNA and Japan. Similar to how Drew McIntyre rebuilt himself when he left WWE. Likewise with Archer, he was young and green during his TNA days which was a long time ago maybe a decade or more now, he has since carved out a much stronger reputation working in Japan. 

Moxley I have no problem with being in a top spot as he's hugely talented and was a main event guy off and on in WWE. However Brodie Lee is talented sure but they should have spent more time building him before throwing him into such a high profile match as he still has some of that WWE reject stigma. 

From what I can gather a stadium stampede match is basically no rules and will take place in the Jaguars stadium.


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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_or_Nothing_(2020)

Going through as someone who doesn't watch AEW......

E mid card Cody who had many different gimmicks to get over with his dads name and failed versus a guy who it's a stretch to even say was a TNA mid card guy in Archer.

 
Cody did reinvent himself as a much more credible talent since his WWE run though, he did this through working indie shows and stints in TNA and Japan.

I appear to be one of very few who actually liked Cody as Stardust in WWE. In fact that's when I really began to notice him. If the goal of that character was to use psychology similar to how his brother did as Goldust, he succeeded. That's still my favorite time of his career. 

But there's no question Cody seems like a much more big name now in AEW. But then again that might be the big fish, small pond story.       


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I thought Cody did a good job as Stardust but he was never going to do anything of note with the gimmick as it was such a blatant copy of Goldust and it just looked and felt low card, for it to have a chance of being effective I think they would have needed to have Cody attack his brother and perhaps retire him and take ownership of the gimmick and reinvent it as a new super heelish version of it. 
Cody knew he was capable of much more and hes said many times the character was the catalyst for his WWE departure. 

My favourite version of Cody was when he was teaming with Ted Dibiase jnr, I'm still disappointed with how Ted's wrestling career panned out as he had such potential. 

Having established himself on the indies and in Japan Cody does feel like a big fish in a small pond in AEW, right now AEW has a bit of a ECW vibe, it's a group of misfits with a select few top guys.


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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

I thought Cody did a good job as Stardust but he was never going to do anything of note with the gimmick as it was such a blatant copy of Goldust and it just looked and felt low card, for it to have a chance of being effective I think they would have needed to have Cody attack his brother and perhaps retire him and take ownership of the gimmick and reinvent it as a new super heelish version of it. 
Cody knew he was capable of much more and hes said many times the character was the catalyst for his WWE departure. 

My favourite version of Cody was when he was teaming with Ted Dibiase jnr, I'm still disappointed with how Ted's wrestling career panned out as he had such potential. 

Having established himself on the indies and in Japan Cody does feel like a big fish in a small pond in AEW, right now AEW has a bit of a ECW vibe, it's a group of misfits with a select few top guys.

I one billion percent disagree that the Stardust persona looked and felt low card. I also actually have no idea why Cody himself hated the gimmick so much. The issue is not so much that it was a bad character but that it was never sustained. The Dust Brothers were WWE Tag Team Champions as Goldust and Stardust; and I loved it. But the issue was that unfortunately by 2014 the Tag Team Championship had lost a lot of meaning since the days of Demolition or the Hart Foundation or even early Hardys when merely winning the belts meant a lot of prestige. But that being said, they still could have been Tag Team Champions longer and given a New Day type run. 

There's also no reason why Cody couldn't have had another Intercontinental Title run as Stardust and Goldust was before him. I would actually have preferred that to so many runs by The Miz. 

So to me it's not the persona itself; it's what was done with it. Stardust is still my favorite part of Cody's career, ever. 

But that all being said, if Cody had never left WWE there would not be an AEW; and AEW has already made such a mark on the wrestling industry both due to it being an interesting show and its ability to compete with WWE in a way neither TNA nor ROH ever could. I already don't want to imagine wrestling without AEW.      

I do agree that I wish Ted DiBiase Jr. would have been able to do more. 

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This was a really good show, on paper it looked fairly weak but I enjoyed it a lot and would go as far to say that it's the best wrestling show of the empty arena era that I've seen so far. 

Once again there were a few wrestlers scattered at ringside as fans which gives a little atmosphere to the matches, I will say though that the wrestlers were not 2 metres apart at ringside which is wrong, AEW should be encouraging social distancing and it's not like there isn't the space to do it. 

The ladder match opener was a clear copy of Money in the Bank but I'm ok with that. It was a decent match if a little too comedic at times but there were some great spots. The highlight was the debut of Brian Cage who was booked dominant, he looked sharp. 

MJF vs Jungleboy was a really good match between two rising stars, I wasn't expecting much from this one but both guys impressed me and I enjoyed the finish too. 

Cody vs Archer was decent too, surprising result but Archer looked strong. Was funny when the camera cut to Tyson at ringside and showed him yawning LOL 

The two women's matches were both solid enough but I was only really half watching them both as I still don't care much for the AEW women's division. 

Dustin vs Spears was played mostly for laughs, Spears is great as this mid-level heel who gets heat then takes a beating from a babyface. 

Moxley vs Lee was a really good brawl, they did a good job of making sure Lee put in a strong showing in defeat. It's far too soon to have him as a champion so this was the right result. 

The stadium stampede - I loved this, top cinematic work here, like the WWE cinematic matches clearly there was lots of editing and post production here but this featured more actual wrestling than the what we've seen in WWE. There was some great stuff, Matt Hardy in the pool switching into different versions of himself, Page chasing Guervera on a horse and then drinking at the bar with Hager and Kenny. One of the Bucks climbed the goal posts at one point and they did the northern lights suplex spot for the length of the field(or so they'd have you believe with the editing). The ending sequence looked great too.


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